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15 May 2024 20:37:32
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15 May 2024 14:54:47
So Paul Joyce reporting that Klopp wanted to keep Matip this summer, surely a bizarre decision if true.
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15 May 2024 15:03:44
What do you mean by ‘bizarre’?
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15 May 2024 15:20:44
I’d still keep him. What’s the options? We not going to buy a cb. His experience has been missed.
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15 May 2024 15:37:01
John, we've got a 22 year old CB in Sepp Van den Berg who grew up with the Dutch style of play and has just had a superb season at Mainz. We'd be mental not to give him a chance next season under Slot. Virgil will need rotating more and more going forward and Matip can't be relied on to be fit, nor can Konate.
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15 May 2024 15:38:51
Bizarre in that he’s very injury prone and is still recovering from a very serious long term injury, he’s well into his 30’s so is only likely to have further injury issues and is on a very high salary. Would also be a waste of a non home grown space on a player who spends significant time on the treatment table rather than on the pitch, like Keita and Thiago. As good as Matip has been (and there is absolutely no denial he has been a very good player), we can’t offer a contract on the basis of sentimentality.
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15 May 2024 16:31:12
Love Jurgen but have to admit I thought it would have been crazy too.
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15 May 2024 16:39:48
IF Mati had stayed fit this season then I would have no hesitation in wanting him to stay but the guy has missed a lot of the season. It’s unfortunate as I really like the player but you can’t keep flogging a dead horse. He needs to move on and best of luck to him.
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15 May 2024 17:24:02
Don’t understand why anyone would ask Klopp really when he’s already resigned.
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{Ed002's Note - They work on considering players year around.
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15 May 2024 18:24:00
I think that's its best for all that Matip is moved on,
at his peak, he was a fantastic defender, but now, he is better at a club in a lower league,
I agree with Big Virg being rotated, he is making errors now, and his age and past injury says that he needs more rest and recovery .
its really important that we do sign a quality centre back, left footed if possible .
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15 May 2024 18:44:14
I think klopps finished. Imo he's past his best. Unless he goes to Madrid full of superstars when IF he were to sign he'd do well. Anywherelse he's getting found out. He's been making terrible decisions these past 3 years and it's cost us. He's forgotten what made him successful as a manager and his style of play.
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15 May 2024 19:13:22
Unfortunately Klopp has a number of crucial blind spots that another season may turn fans against him / sour his relationship. I now think it’s a good time for him to leave and give someone else a go.
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15 May 2024 19:27:46
Virgil Van Dijk is going to want to play the majority of games, whether for us or any of the top teams on the planet. Think people should be careful what they wish for.
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15 May 2024 17:30:23
Ok that’s a fair point, I thought it was a recent revelation. 👍.
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15 May 2024 17:37:32
Matip's contribution to the squad morale and feel-good factor is undeniable. He may be the most popular player in the current squad. Much would have come down to wages, although its all conjecture now, anyway.
Ed's, do you still believe SVDB will not get a chance, as you had stated previously?
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{Ed002's Note - The new coach may give him a chance in preseason.}
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15 May 2024 19:46:34
What Virgil wants and what his body is capable aren’t going to be the same thing forever. At some point we will have to manage his game time to ensure he’s in top condition when in matters. Even the greats like Terry, Vidic, Ramos and Thiago Silva slowed down eventually.
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15 May 2024 20:10:26
Slot was a coach at PEC Zwolle when Van der berg was coming through their youth system wasn’t he? Hopefully he’ll want to give one of his old boys chance.
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15 May 2024 09:06:04
Good morning Ed002,
If you have some time today I would appreciate your input.
Regarding Diaz, I know you have said we could possibly look to allow him to leave. I would imagine he may be offered around by his agent but if rumours are to be believed he wants Barcelona and they may be interested in him. With that being said Liverpool bought him for 40 odd million and would look for a profit I'm sure so could you see Barcelona being able to spend a significant amount on him? I can't see Liverpool looking to swap for another of their players that are surplus.
Thank you for your time Ed002.
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{Ed002's Note - As I have said, Liverpool has an interest in a Barcelona player and could look for a deal involving a payer and some cash.}
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15 May 2024 10:38:50
Presumably that player is Raphinha and not Araujo, Roque or Balde.
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15 May 2024 10:37:00
Thanks for the response Ed002,
I appreciate your information regarding Raphinha, I just thought it would be a hard deal to do swapping players and something Liverpool general don’t do as a transfer fee is easier to do business with. Assuming that if we don’t swap with them then they couldn’t pay Diaz’s transfer fee?
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{Ed002's Note - It is not harder if both players agree. Barcelona could pay his transfer fee - there main issue is wages, but they have a lot of players available this summer.}
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15 May 2024 11:07:18
Could the club turn their attention to Vitor Roque who is deemed surplus by Xavi?
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{Ed002's Note - No he will moving in the summer, but not to Liverpool.}
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15 May 2024 11:38:10
A swap for Raphinha would be trading down imho. He’s certainly an inferior player to Diaz and has flopped hard at Barca, other than a one off relatively good season at Leeds he’s been a fairly mediocre lightweight winger with little in the way of end product or ability, you can lump him in with Antony, Richarlison etc and players of that ilk. I’d personally hope we avoid the annual Barcelona fire sale as they have no players of any tangible quality.
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15 May 2024 11:41:04
I'm not a huge fan of Raphinha but he has slightly more end product than Diaz and they're similar ages. It arguably makes sense because we have Gakpo who can play LW but once Salah swans off to Saudi (which is looking very likely with all the wingers we're linked to right now) we don't have a standout option for the right side of attack.
My issue with Raphinha is his goal return isn't much different to Diaz's, however creatively he puts up far more assists. Diaz runs with his head down, whereas Raphinha can pick out a team mate consistently. Gakpo is another who at PSV picked up as many assists as he did goals.
As fans we're probably going to have to get used to our wingers scoring less under Slot. In his Feyenoord team the striker get's most of the goals and we've just not been used to that for a long time. The likes of Coutinho, Sterling, Mane and Salah have been our main goal threats since Suarez left in 2014 and Sturridge's body disintegrated. The flip side to that is, is Nunez the right man to lead the line if we're playing with 10 goal a season wingers who like to put crosses in? Because Jota staying fit seems unlikely.
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15 May 2024 10:46:14
Thanks Ed002 👍🏼.
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15 May 2024 12:54:28
I thought Ed02 was talking about Thiago’s brother and thought he’d lost his mind, then I realised he meant the ex Leeds player. Makes much more sense now.
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15 May 2024 13:07:26
10 goals and 12 assists for Raphinha and 13 goals and 5 assists for Diaz. They're very similar level players and it would be a swap that would suit both parties as they need a LW and we need a RW. I think Diaz has better stamina levels and prefers the LW, but Raphinha is superior creatively and prefers the RW. Neither player is an elite level goal scorer.
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15 May 2024 14:52:37
I'd rather just keep Diaz.
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15 May 2024 15:42:30
Raphinha isn’t an elite player full stop. He belongs at Spurs. That’s his level.
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15 May 2024 16:26:21
I'm not interested in this move unless the club have legit concerns about Salah's form/ health/ age. Otherwise, I don't get it.
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{Ed002's Note - He is onle of the options that Fallows, Hunter and Klopp have on their list - not at the top.}
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15 May 2024 18:11:18
If I am right (not going to pretend I am a slot expert) don't see how either would fit into Slots system to be honest. He uses more traditional wingers to maintain width whilst his full backs invert and goal threat comes from the starting central players. If this is the case, I don't really see how any of Diaz, Raphinha or Salah fit into the system.
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15 May 2024 18:33:18
while I really enjoy Diaz in our team, his final pass or shot is just not good enough, now our new manager might be a better coach than Klopp and staff, so he will want to see all players and see what he can do, or move some players on .
we have got the very best from Mo Salah, Top Class, def, but I think that its best if he moves on, while we can get a big fee .
he was invisible at Villa, along with 3 or 4 other players .
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15 May 2024 06:02:29
Ed2, may I follow up on something you wrote about Andre Trindade. Not trying to be awkward, just trying to better understand something. You mentioned that Fulham have worked on deal to overcome the issue of Fluminense only owning 80% of his rights and agreed a fee with Fluminense in January, but it will only happen should Palhinho leave in the summer and the player agrees. Is it quite common for deals to be worked on as contingency plans for clubs which are specifically longer term contingencies? Obviously this must throw up all sorts of issues with regard to agreed deals not then being delivered and unsettling players. Any info is appreciated.
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{Ed002's Note - Fulham were expecting Paulinho to leave and would have teken him regardless. The player rejected the move at that time. Clubs work on potential transfers year around.}
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15 May 2024 16:47:31
This may not be popular or even viable but if Liverpool believe Bajcetic is the long term DM/ 6 solution, replacing Endo with Palhinha would be a step up in quality and not unduly impede development.
Price might be a problem but perhaps this summer competition for his signing is less and Fulham are open to doing a deal.
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15 May 2024 01:03:38
One for Ed002 - does Jeremie Frimpiong have a (£ or €) 35m release clause that comes into effect in the next transfer window?
Do we hold any interest?
And would he be classed as HG to an EPL club given his youth career was at Man City from the age of 10-19?
Thanks.
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{Ed002's Note - Jeremie Frimpong (RB/RWB/RM/LB) Being versatile has made him attractive to Chelsea and Arsenal who will likely now have him as first choice after losing out on another. Chelsea opted for Malo Gusto but know they may need a replacement for Reece James. 10 years at Manchester City might be against a move to Manchester United, but they have looked. Agent is offering him around major European sides including back to Manchester City, Bayern Munich and Barcelona with Bayern Munich having a serious interested in updating their RB position in the summer. He is HG in England but Liverpool has no interest in him - although if Alexander Arnold opts to leave he may be someone they look to.}
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15 May 2024 11:01:21
Thank you very much Ed002, very informative.
Yes, my thinking on him was if TAA were to move to RM (in a PX deal perhaps as you suggested), we may look to Frimpong to ensure we had an established (but still young) RB to rotate with Bradley.
With a lot of folks suggesting TAA moving, Jones moving and potentially with Kelleher moving, having HG options would help a lot.
Do you have (or are you willing) to share any information about his release clause?
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15 May 2024 09:26:41
Just to let you guys know Alison rumoured to be of interest to an Arab team just sold his house this is why i think he does not want to be here but you guys will not let anyone have an opinion but thanks for your comments I take them on board.
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15 May 2024 09:42:09
He's far too good for the Arab league.
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15 May 2024 09:51:51
He's sold his house because he's just had a brand new one built round the corner.
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14 May 2024 13:12:11
Just wondering what happened to the interest in Andre? Any chance Liverpool will go back in for him?
Seems like he would have been a good fit, but not sure how he has been playing recently.
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{Ed002's Note - Andre Trindade (DM) Recommended to Liverpool as Fabinho cover three years ago but their interest has only came to the fore last summer, but they dropped the ball on this one now and stepped back. Prior interest of Arsenal, Atletico, Barcelona and Braga has gone. I would not totally rule out Napoli but they may be some way off meeting the transfer fee or indeed Manchester United who will need a Casemiro replacement. Manchester City will need a Phillips replacement and may also make an offer. Fulham are keen to take him if Bayern Munich return and they lose Palinha - Fulham have worked on deal to overcome the issue of Fluminense only owning 80% of his rights and agreed a fee with Fluminense in January, but it will only happen should Palhinho leave in the summer and the player agrees.}
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14 May 2024 15:33:19
We need to sign a natural DM as a priority this summer.
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14 May 2024 17:10:10
Would Manuel Ugarte be an option for Liverpool this summer?
By all accounts we got things very wrong with Sporting and screwed-up any chance of getting him before his move to PSG. I've read PSG have ruled out a loan move but Juventus and Milan have been sniffing around.
Do you think he would be a good addition, irrespective of whether it is possible?
TIA.
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{Ed002's Note - No he is not an option for Liverpool.}
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14 May 2024 12:34:16
Hi Eds,
Any information regarding Trent future at the club? Do they plan to play him in Midfield and bring a new Rb to compete with Bradly.
And what's the situation with his contract? Any chance he will leave this summer so we won't lose him for free next summer?
Also VVD contract, if there is any info regarding that.
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{Ed002's Note - Trent Alexander-Arnold (RB/RWB/RM) Seen by Real Madrid as an option to Reece James. If Liverpool are going to try and sign Rodrygo Goes, they may be able to offer Alexander-Arnold plus perhaps €60M for him. Alternatively, Madrid may try persuade the player's agent to have their client run down his contract.
Virgil van Dijk (CB) I am told that van Dijk's agents have said that had approaches from both Real Madrid and Barcelona. Real Madrid see VvD as a low cost solution in terms of transfer fee but need to make space in the wage structure. Barcelona offer an option but will need to agree sales first. Bayern Munich also made a general enquiry, but no more than that. At this point in time it will be very general enquiries only and I doubt any of these clubs will move for him. Suggestion that Al Qadsiah, who are a fairly minor side in Saudi Arabia and play in the equivalent of the Championship, are interested in him may be true, but I really can't see any chance of a move there. I am not aware of the reported interest of Borussia Dortmund being true. I would think that Liverpool might look to perhaps a two year extension - else they could be forced to listen to offers rather than have his contract run down.}
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14 May 2024 15:25:54
You know what is the plan for him if he stays next season? RB or CM?
If CM any RB that on our radar?
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{Ed002's Note - I am not going to know how the new coach will utile the players.}
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14 May 2024 19:10:39
Trent + 60 million for Rodrygo love your end of season humor.
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14 May 2024 19:45:58
€60m and Trent for rodrygo! Absolutely not!
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14 May 2024 20:33:11
I’d probably go for £60m plus Trent for Rodrygo, as it is a pretty decent deal Ace. One year left on Trent’s contract, he’s not exactly covering himself in glory with his defending, he isn’t a centre midfielder, so it seems now is the right time to move on and as we need a winger, which Rodrygo is a very talented one at a very good age, then if there was a possibility of that then it seems a reasonable one. The other options are sticking him on £350k+ a week for more iffy defending or trying to unsuccessfully shoehorn him into midfield, or even worse, him leaving on a free transfer to Madrid, none of those are particularly palatable. We need to be less sentimental. Connor Bradley is more than capable as a right back and we’ve looked far more solid defensively when he’s played (which is backed up by the fact he’s more willing to do the dirty work) .
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14 May 2024 22:45:31
Pure idiotic price Victor, thank God people with actual common sense are looking after transfers.
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15 May 2024 01:07:09
I don't disagree w VV on this one. Got a very capable and arguably more capable right back in Bradley on much lower wages.
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15 May 2024 01:27:45
If TAA doesn’t sign a new contract surely he’ll be sold so his contract doesn’t run down? The most expensive FB was £60m, if TAA had 3 years left i could see £100m bid but with 1 year left £60m seems pretty reasonable.
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15 May 2024 07:18:37
TAA is a terrible defender. On the other hand, he's world class in his passing and dead ball skills, but he's not experienced in an attacking mid position and not good enough (in my opinion) for a holding mod position.
I find it really tough to see where he fits in our team. I personally prefer Bradley at RB and other players in midfield.
I'd sell/ swap if Madrid were interested. I find it kinda crazy that Madrid would be looking at James over TAA with 1 year left on the contract. I mean James is an excellent player and better defender but the guy is made of crisps.
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15 May 2024 09:05:16
He is going to sign a new contract though, who can seriously see him not doing so?
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15 May 2024 08:40:48
I mean, he could always run his contract down, then leave on a free transfer to Madrid as that would be perfectly fine wouldn’t it, Jude? Personally I think given that he’s in his last year and he’s not exactly been great the last couple of years (and in being very diplomatic there), moving him on and improving the squad in the process is a good move for all concerned. I personally don’t think handing him a contract at the same salary level as Salah is good economics either, he simply hasn’t earned that (he literally shirked challenges in the last game against Everton), whereas Salah deserved it because he delivers every season TAA hasn’t. Given that Bradley has stepped up and looks very capable at this level, the sensible decision means ignoring sentiment and taking a pragmatic approach. If, as has been suggested by Ed002, there is a possibility of an agreement where we pay £60m to Madrid and TAA in exchange for Rodrygo, that would be a good deal, as Rodrygo is one of the best young talents in Europe and at 23 he’s at a good age whilst he has also been bagging double figures in goals the last couple of years at a very good level, whereas we are not in a good negotiating position due to TAA’s contract ending in June 2025.
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15 May 2024 11:08:39
We'll agree to disagree Victor, maybe when Trent signs his contract Madrid may be interested in a straight swap deal.
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15 May 2024 10:49:07
Trent is not world class in any sense of the statement. He has no defensive skills and is average with dead ball situations.
His passing is his good attribute and his level is decent at most.
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15 May 2024 14:56:34
Jesus. the man must be absolute Tripe, why on earth would all these top teams like Madrid even be interested in him in the first place.
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